[clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Discussion:

Dino Edwards

2018-10-16 17:10:15 UTC

Hello,

I$B!G(Bm getting the following error on clamav on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when I look at the service status:

Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
$B(&(!(Bextend.conf
Active: active (running) since Tue 2018-10-09 12:12:22 EDT; 4s ago
Docs: man:clamd(8)
man:clamd.conf(5)
https://www.clamav.net/documents/
Process: 14202 ExecStartPre=/bin/chown clamav /run/clamav (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Process: 14199 ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
Main PID: 14207 (clamd)
Tasks: 1
Memory: 225.1M
CPU: 3.902s
CGroup: /system.slice/clamav-daemon.service
$B(&(!(B14207 /usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true

Oct 09 12:12:22 hermes systemd[1]: Starting Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon...
Oct 09 12:12:22 hermes systemd[1]: Started Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon.
Oct 09 12:12:22 hermes mkdir[14199]: /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory $B!F(B/run/clamav$B!G(B: File exists

I got a response from someone about this error but I can$B!G(Bt seem to find their email. One thing I noticed is that the clamd.conf file sets the $B!H(BLocalSocket$B!I(B to the $B!H(B/var/run/clamav$B!I(B directory, however the error refers to the $B!H(B/run/clamav$B!I(B directory. I don$B!G(Bt see a symlink for those two directories, but the clamd.ctl file looks like the exact same file in both directories. If I delete the /var/run/clamav directory, I don$B!G(Bt get the error, but if I restart clamd again I get the error again. I$B!G(Bm not sure what the problem is, and I hope someone can help.

Thanks a lot

Dino Edwards

2018-10-16 17:12:12 UTC

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Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories. There is a link between the two, I just didn$B!G(Bt go up a level in the directory structure. The question about the error still remains though.

Hello,

I$B!G(Bm getting the following error on clamav on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when I look at the service status:

Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
$B(&(!(Bextend.conf
Active: active (running) since Tue 2018-10-09 12:12:22 EDT; 4s ago
Docs: man:clamd(8)
man:clamd.conf(5)
https://www.clamav.net/documents/
Process: 14202 ExecStartPre=/bin/chown clamav /run/clamav (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Process: 14199 ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
Main PID: 14207 (clamd)
Tasks: 1
Memory: 225.1M
CPU: 3.902s
CGroup: /system.slice/clamav-daemon.service
$B(&(!(B14207 /usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true

Oct 09 12:12:22 hermes systemd[1]: Starting Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon...
Oct 09 12:12:22 hermes systemd[1]: Started Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon.
Oct 09 12:12:22 hermes mkdir[14199]: /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory $B!F(B/run/clamav$B!G(B: File exists

I got a response from someone about this error but I can$B!G(Bt seem to find their email. One thing I noticed is that the clamd.conf file sets the $B!H(BLocalSocket$B!I(B to the $B!H(B/var/run/clamav$B!I(B directory, however the error refers to the $B!H(B/run/clamav$B!I(B directory. I don$B!G(Bt see a symlink for those two directories, but the clamd.ctl file looks like the exact same file in both directories. If I delete the /var/run/clamav directory, I don$B!G(Bt get the error, but if I restart clamd again I get the error again. I$B!G(Bm not sure what the problem is, and I hope someone can help.

Thanks a lot

Dino Edwards

2018-10-17 11:12:31 UTC

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Good morning?

good morning in 2018

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Dino Edwards

2018-10-17 12:33:14 UTC

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How about you contribute something of value to this discussion instead of a link about how this was added in Linux 7 years ago so you can show everyone how clever you are.

Do I really need to know the history of this change? No, I was able to figure it out and I posted that with my 2nd post.

The main issue still remains, "/bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists". Do you have any insight on that? I'm thinking no?

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:***@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Post by Dino Edwards
Good morning?

what about read posted links and don't strip context?

/run was introduced 7 years ago and the discussion about it made it to every it news portal and that's what i mean when somebody is surprised that /run is a tmpfs available at early boot which also means you need to make sure folders there are created at boot

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

Post by Dino Edwards

good morning in 2018

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------

Post by Dino Edwards
Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories.
There is a link between the two

good morning in 2018

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-distributions-to-include-run-directory-1219006.html
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Dino Edwards

2018-10-17 16:11:21 UTC

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Get real. When I and others called you out, you decided to put a little more detail to cover the obvious fact that you were just trying to be a dick.

The important thing you fail to understand that I did NOT write the script to start the service. So any "mkdir/chown dance" as you put it, was NOT done by me, but rather the package maintainer. This USED to work in previous Ubuntu/clamd version, now it no longer works. So, I'm trying to figure out why it's not working and if I should bring this up in the appropriate Ubuntu forum.

Your link and "contribution" continues to be void of any value and substance in this discussion.

So, I'm going to stop feeding this troll.

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:***@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:39 AM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-***@lists.clamav.net>; Dino Edwards <***@mydirectmail.net>; ***@eclipso.eu
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Post by Dino Edwards
How about you contribute something of value to this discussion instead of a link about how this was added in Linux 7 years ago so you can show everyone how clever you are.

i contributed the link which explains how these folders are supposed to get created at boot and any mkdir/chown dance is plain wrong - it's not my fault that you don't recognize input when you get it https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

and if one insists in "ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" he should make it proper as "ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" which don't fail the whole service in case the directory already exists

Post by Dino Edwards
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory
‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Post by Dino Edwards
Good morning?

what about read posted links and don't strip context?
/run was introduced 7 years ago and the discussion about it made it to
every it news portal and that's what i mean when somebody is surprised
that /run is a tmpfs available at early boot which also means you need
to make sure folders there are created at boot
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

Post by Dino Edwards

good morning in 2018

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------

Post by Dino Edwards
Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories.
There is a link between the two

good morning in 2018
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-distributions-to-include-
run-directory-1219006.html

Reindl Harald

2018-10-17 16:20:21 UTC

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Post by Dino Edwards
Get real. When I and others called you out, you decided to put a little more detail to cover the obvious fact that you were just trying to be a dick.
The important thing you fail to understand that I did NOT write the script to start the service. So any "mkdir/chown dance" as you put it, was NOT done by me, but rather the package maintainer. This USED to work in previous Ubuntu/clamd version, now it no longer works. So, I'm trying to figure out why it's not working and if I should bring this up in the appropriate Ubuntu forum.

if the unit is not written by you, comes from Ubuntu and now stopped
working guess what: you should have contacted the appropriate Ubuntu
forum to start with

i just pointed out that i am suprised after that many years that one
still don't know about /run and how to handle it properly and frankly:
when you don#t undertsan dthe "directory already exists" message and ask
here insetad jump on the packager with did this bullshit and *pretty
clear* did even not try to restart his damned unit a single time how
should one help you?

Post by Dino Edwards
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Post by Dino Edwards
How about you contribute something of value to this discussion instead of a link about how this was added in Linux 7 years ago so you can show everyone how clever you are.

i contributed the link which explains how these folders are supposed to get created at boot and any mkdir/chown dance is plain wrong - it's not my fault that you don't recognize input when you get it https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html
and if one insists in "ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" he should make it proper as "ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" which don't fail the whole service in case the directory already exists

Post by Dino Edwards
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory
‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Post by Dino Edwards
Good morning?

what about read posted links and don't strip context?
/run was introduced 7 years ago and the discussion about it made it to
every it news portal and that's what i mean when somebody is surprised
that /run is a tmpfs available at early boot which also means you need
to make sure folders there are created at boot
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

Post by Dino Edwards

good morning in 2018

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------

Post by Dino Edwards
Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories.
There is a link between the two

good morning in 2018
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-distributions-to-include-
run-directory-1219006.html

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Joel Esler (jesler)

2018-10-18 16:31:36 UTC

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After several complaints in this thread and three others that have written me off list, I've gone ahead and made the decision to removed Reindl from the ClamAV-users list. Present conduct on the list is reflective of past behavior that he has been warned about.
--
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Cisco Talos Intelligence Group
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On Oct 17, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Reindl Harald <***@thelounge.net<mailto:***@thelounge.net>> wrote:

Am 17.10.18 um 18:11 schrieb Dino Edwards:
Get real. When I and others called you out, you decided to put a little more detail to cover the obvious fact that you were just trying to be a dick.

The important thing you fail to understand that I did NOT write the script to start the service. So any "mkdir/chown dance" as you put it, was NOT done by me, but rather the package maintainer. This USED to work in previous Ubuntu/clamd version, now it no longer works. So, I'm trying to figure out why it's not working and if I should bring this up in the appropriate Ubuntu forum.

if the unit is not written by you, comes from Ubuntu and now stopped
working guess what: you should have contacted the appropriate Ubuntu
forum to start with

i just pointed out that i am suprised after that many years that one
still don't know about /run and how to handle it properly and frankly:
when you don#t undertsan dthe "directory already exists" message and ask
here insetad jump on the packager with did this bullshit and *pretty
clear* did even not try to restart his damned unit a single time how
should one help you?

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:***@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:39 AM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-***@lists.clamav.net<mailto:clamav-***@lists.clamav.net>>; Dino Edwards <***@mydirectmail.net<mailto:***@mydirectmail.net>>; ***@eclipso.eu<mailto:***@eclipso.eu>
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory â/run/clamavâ: File exists

Am 17.10.18 um 14:33 schrieb Dino Edwards:
How about you contribute something of value to this discussion instead of a link about how this was added in Linux 7 years ago so you can show everyone how clever you are.

i contributed the link which explains how these folders are supposed to get created at boot and any mkdir/chown dance is plain wrong - it's not my fault that you don't recognize input when you get it https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

and if one insists in "ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" he should make it proper as "ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" which don't fail the whole service in case the directory already exists

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:***@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:29 AM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-***@lists.clamav.net<mailto:clamav-***@lists.clamav.net>>; Dino Edwards
<***@mydirectmail.net<mailto:***@mydirectmail.net>>
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory
â/run/clamavâ: File exists

Am 17.10.18 um 13:12 schrieb Dino Edwards:
Good morning?

what about read posted links and don't strip context?

/run was introduced 7 years ago and the discussion about it made it to
every it news portal and that's what i mean when somebody is surprised
that /run is a tmpfs available at early boot which also means you need
to make sure folders there are created at boot

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

Am 16.10.18 um 19:12 schrieb Dino Edwards:
good morning in 2018

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------

Am 16.10.18 um 19:12 schrieb Dino Edwards:
Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories.
There is a link between the two
good morning in 2018

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-distributions-to-include-
run-directory-1219006.html
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Kris Deugau

2018-10-17 14:37:41 UTC

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Post by Dino Edwards
Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories.
There is a link between the two, I just didn’t go up a level in the
directory structure. The question about the error still remains though.

The chown and mkdir look a bit suspect to me; I'm not seeing anything
like that in the Debian packages (which should be mostly the same in
Ubuntu). What I *do* see in one of the stock files
(/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.socket) is this stanza:

[Socket]
ListenStream=/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
#ListenStream=127.0.0.1:1024
SocketUser=clamav
SocketGroup=clamav
RemoveOnStop=True

which if I understand correctly, implies that clamd on this system is
using systemd's socket creation/handling voodoo rather than doing so itself.

Can you post:

- Output from "dpkg -L clamav-daemon |grep system"

- Contents of any .service or .socket files from the above list

- Contents of any files in /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d

Post by Dino Edwards
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
└─extend.conf

Dino Edwards

2018-10-17 16:21:13 UTC

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Hi Kris thanks for trying to help,

Here you go:

dpkg -L clamav-daemon |grep system

/lib/systemd
/lib/systemd/system
/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service

cat /lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service

[Unit]
Description=Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
Documentation=man:clamd(8) man:clamd.conf(5) https://www.clamav.net/documents/
# Check for database existence
ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/main.{c[vl]d,inc}
ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/daily.{c[vl]d,inc}

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true
# Reload the database
ExecReload=/bin/kill -USR2 $MAINPID
StandardOutput=syslog

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

cd /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
***@hermes:/etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d# ls
extend.conf
***@hermes:/etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d# cat extend.conf
[Service]
ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav
ExecStartPre=/bin/chown clamav /run/clamav

-----Original Message-----
From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-***@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Kris Deugau
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:38 AM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-***@lists.clamav.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

The chown and mkdir look a bit suspect to me; I'm not seeing anything like that in the Debian packages (which should be mostly the same in Ubuntu). What I *do* see in one of the stock files
(/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.socket) is this stanza:

[Socket]
ListenStream=/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
#ListenStream=127.0.0.1:1024
SocketUser=clamav
SocketGroup=clamav
RemoveOnStop=True

which if I understand correctly, implies that clamd on this system is using systemd's socket creation/handling voodoo rather than doing so itself.

Can you post:

- Output from "dpkg -L clamav-daemon |grep system"

- Contents of any .service or .socket files from the above list

- Contents of any files in /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d

Post by Dino Edwards
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
└─extend.conf

This seems to indicate that you're not using the stock systemd service definitions from Ubuntu/Debian upstream.

-kgd
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Dino Edwards

2018-10-17 17:36:10 UTC

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Ok thanks! You really need to work on your social skills though. Here's how NORMAL people (i.e. people NOT in the autistic spectrum) would have handled this:

YOU:
"Hey I noticed the "-" prefix in "ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" line. This does not indicate a problem, but rather a warning letting you know that the directory already exists. You don't have anything to worry about"

ME:
"Thanks! I appreciate you looking at it. You are awesome!"

See? It's simple. Just don't be a dick! Give it a try.

Thanks again!

Dino

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:***@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:08 PM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-***@lists.clamav.net>; Dino Edwards <***@mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Post by Dino Edwards
ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav
ExecStartPre=/bin/chown clamav /run/clamav

you don't get an error, an error is when the service don't start

"If I delete the /var/run/clamav directory, I don’t get the error, but if I restart clamd again I get the error again. I’m not sure what the problem is" - idiot there is no problem

"ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" is prefixed with - so that the service don't fail in case the directory exists and "mkdir" natuarlly fails when a directory already exists

when you delete the directory - guess what - it get created and no warning - frankly this is not a clamav topic at all but lack of basic understanding of your system
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Bernd Petrovitsch

2018-10-17 21:48:52 UTC

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Hi all!

On 17/10/2018 19:36, Dino Edwards wrote:
[...]

Post by Dino Edwards
"Hey I noticed the "-" prefix in "ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" line. This does not indicate a problem, but rather a warning letting you know that the directory already exists. You don't have anything to worry about"

FWIW but changing that to "ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir -p /run/clamav"
should silence the "directory already exists" case (and it doesn't
return an error value).

MfG,
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Dino Edwards

2018-10-17 16:14:40 UTC

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@ GBlorst Thanks for the heads up. Iâm going to try and stop feeding the troll.

From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-***@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:47 AM
To: clamav-***@lists.clamav.net
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory â/run/clamavâ: File exists

Hi, Dino.

Reindl is a scared little boy. This is normal behavior for him. He has low-self esteem and needs to make his little boy self feel better. Don't worry about him.
Ignore him and he will go away!

He has been banned from many lists for his childish behavior!

Bye Bye Reindl.

GBlorst

--------
How about you contribute something of value to this discussion instead of a link about how this was added in Linux 7 years ago so you can show everyone how clever you are.

Do I really need to know the history of this change? No, I was able to figure it out and I posted that with my 2nd post.

The main issue still remains, "/bin/mkdir: cannot create directory â/run/clamavâ: File exists". Do you have any insight on that? I'm thinking no?

Thanks

-----Original Message-----

From: Reindl Harald [mailto:***@thelounge.net]

Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:29 AM

To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-***@lists.clamav.net><mailto:clamav-***@lists.clamav.net>; Dino Edwards <***@mydirectmail.net><mailto:***@mydirectmail.net>

Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory â/run/clamavâ: File exists

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